Second posting, got kick off the first time. Anyway, I have attached three drawings, the first is a TurboCAD tutorial drawing that I use to help learn Medusa4 Personal. The other two pictures show how TurboCAD use's the tool "Object Trim" to make a curved corner. You can also use arc's in TC. This is what I had to do in Medusa4 using the Smart drafting arc tool. At first I could not find the Ellipse tools. The icon almost look's like a circle, didn't notice the "E" in the icon. Also the Drafting documentation could be better by having explanations about the use of the tools. A lot of the tools are not documented very well if at all. Ellipse's are not even listed in the index. Have 6 more 2D tutorial to do then on to the 3D tutorials.